LDL does not support complex symmetric matrices

Given that you cannot factorize a complex symmetric matrix with LDL in MatLab, I was wondering if there was a particular reason? Is there some package which can perform this factorization?

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Christine Tobler
Christine Tobler el 7 de En. de 2022

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Largely the reason LDL doesn't support this is that it's less commonly requested for complex symmetric matrices than for complex Hermitian ones, so LDL only supports the more common variant. We would also need some option to indicate which of the two modes is meant to be used.
There is a LAPACK function ZSYTRF that you can call from a mex-file to get the complex symmetric LDL decomposition.

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thanks! Just to follow-up, LAPACK is meant for dense matrices so this answer is not applicable for sparse matrices, correct?
Yes, LDL for sparse matrices doesn't support complex at all, neither the Hermitian nor the complex symmetric case. This is again not based on mathematics, just on practical considerations of resources and commonality of the use case.

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David Goodmanson
David Goodmanson el 6 de En. de 2022
Editada: David Goodmanson el 7 de En. de 2022

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Hi Nathan,
the LDL decomposition works for hermitian matrices. In LDL the D matrix is hermitian, so
if A = L*D*L', then A' = L*D' *L' = L*D*L' = A, and A has to be hermitian.
But a symmetric complex matrix is not hermitian, so LDL won't work.

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Nathan Zhao
Nathan Zhao el 24 de En. de 2022
Hi David Goodmanson,
thanks for your response! For complex symmetric matrices, I'm aware a naive LDL implementation does not work, but if you use a bunch-kauffman factorization (which uses 2x2 pivoting and makes D block-diagonal rather than diagonal, but the blocks are either 1x1 or 2x2), then the factorization should work?
Best,
Nathan
David,
LDL for a symmetric matrix implies A=L*D*L.', where .' is the usual (rather than complex conjugate) transpose. You can easily see that this decomposition is a symmetric matrix - even if D is complex-valued. It's a different kind of decomposition.
EMCanuck1
EMCanuck1 el 18 de Feb. de 2025
I agree with Yaroslav. My work involves decomposing a symmetric complex matrix and A=L*D*L.' is valid. The fact that ldl() threw an error made me second-guess my derivation, but it is correct. What should the LDL be called for complex symmetric matrices, I wonder?

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