Simplified Synchronous Machine with zero mechanical input

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Pamela
Pamela el 6 de Mzo. de 2023
Editada: AR el 12 de Ag. de 2025
Hello,
I am trying to simulate a simplified synchronous machine linked to the ground as shown in the picture below:
I gave Pm=0 and E=0 as an input. Logically, I expected to obtain w=0 because if Pm=0 that mean that the rotor is not turning. But in fact I obtain w=1 pu as shown in the figure below:
Can you please provide me with an explanation about this phenomenon ?

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AR
AR el 12 de Ag. de 2025
Editada: AR el 12 de Ag. de 2025
Hi @Pamela,
I was able to see a similar output when I reproduced the model by setting both Pm and E to zero.This result can be explained by how synchronous machines are modelled in simulation environments.
When Pm (mechanical power) and E (internal voltage) are set to zero:
  • The machine does not receive any mechanical input or excitation.
  • However, the rotor speed (wm) remains at 1 pu because, in per-unit systems, this value represents the synchronous speed of the system rather than the actual speed of the rotor due to input power.
  • Unless there is a disturbance or a change in reference, the model assumes the machine is synchronized with the grid and maintains the base speed.
As a result, even with zero input, the simulation keeps wm at 1 pu, indicating that the rotor continues to spin at synchronous speed, not that it is physically being driven by mechanical power.
This behavior is typical in simplified models where:
  • The synchronous speed is used as a reference.
  • It is not directly linked to the mechanical power input when no disturbances are present.
I hope this clarifies the phenomenon you observed.

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